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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.12 17:04:00 -
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I am very happy to see Caldari interference in Intaki space reduced, but the tone of this article is culturally blind and incredibly offensive. Clearly the OP does not understand the mind of the Intaki people. We are desperately trying to avoid being manipulated by external interests so that we can seek independence as a democratic, peaceful and politically neutral ally of our neighbors. Calling the Security Directorate of the High Counsel "criminals" and "quislings" only obscures the issue and fans the flames of discontent. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:50:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Security of Intaki is being farmed out to a known criminal organization. What do our pro-separatist quisling apologists have to say in response?
I call on all Federation Militia pilots to boycott Intaki. No upgrades. They don't want our help, and therefore we should not give it.
Thanks to the Federation Militia, you are closer to your dream of independence as well. You live in a Federation - the only true democracy in New Eden, not a Fascist dictatorship. You are welcome.
Point taken, but please don't boycott Intaki. The separatist movement is not inherently anti-Federation.
Yet...I, too, am surprised that the IPI-IRED coalition hasn't weighed in on your post.
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.13 09:48:00 -
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Aelisha wrote: As for my friends in the IPI, I am sure words speaking larger than action from the Federation comes as no surprise to you. Best of luck in your efforts.
Meanwhile, legions of vicious and totally insane pirates lurking in nullsec thirst for the blood of the weakened victor and all the innocent victims left in the wake of the two thrashing titans. Every one of you should feel ashamed. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.13 16:59:00 -
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Aelisha wrote: Basically, if you feel that the powers that be are not living up to your expectations, maybe they do not owe you that service? Take up arms, find like-minded people, and push the scourge of piracy out of Placid. That is assuming you have the mettle and oratory to achieve such a thing, hmm?
What makes you think that I am not doing this exact thing? |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.13 20:41:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:von Khan wrote:Intaki people have the same values they strive for a life of virtue, how would you label them? Amarrians should be aware that while both the Empire and the Intaki are deeply spiritual societies, similarities end there, and the vast majority of Intaki would be gravely insulted by most comparisons the average Amarrian capsuleer often tries to draw between their cultures.
Namas, Andreus.
The core teachings of Pax Amarria at the esoteric level are very similar to those in the First Golden Suthra.
The greatest divide between Pax Amarria and Ida are the Amarrian doctrines of the existence of a personal God, entitlement to the lives and wills of others and Conquer and Convert. Ida sees these things as an imposition of the will and besides it being a projection of suffering, Ida describes them as ultimately harmful to the Enlightenment of those that practice it. By and large, we see this conflict manifested within the Amarr culture, which has shown itself to be capable of the highest good as well as the blackest evil. It hovers, trapped in a cycle between Samusara and Niuvana.
However, we have the choice of building bridges between Ida and Pax Amarria and offering the wisdom of the Suthras to those Amarrians that would move closer to releasing their slaves, ending the pursuit of conquest and achieving Enlightenment. Every day you make that choice, to build that bridge and offer a fellow soul your hand. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.13 21:05:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:I believe the Pax Amarria is a political manifest (Emperor Heideran's, to be specific), not a religious text.
Since political leaders are also religious leaders in the Amarr Empire, it could be argued to be a religious text on that technicality - but to the best of my knowledge, the Pax Amarria is not regarded as "scripture".
Fair enough. I am using the term the way I hear von Khan use it. I have no idea what they call their religion other than "God". |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:49:00 -
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That's nice Gallentius, I'm glad you can look up a kill record. Who cares? Big things start small and take a long time to grow. You had a beginning too, once, and your big title and long list of decorations don't seem to inform your sense of diplomacy much. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:02:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Placid, it's not a region of the Federation anymore. It is a property of the State that is currently occupied by federal oppressors.
About 'liberation' and 'occupation'. Amarr bring faith, morality and teaching to peoples. We bring progress, technological advances and prosperity. But minmatars and gallentes bring NOTHING. They only take your property, giving nothing in return. Nothing, called "freedom". You can't eat freedom, you can't sleep on freedom, you can't warm yourself with freedom. You can only die in freedom. And the worst thing, is that some peoples (mostly stupid ones) buy this freedom, this chaos, emptiness and void. Why? Because gallentean beurocrates and politicians sell this nothing with tinsel of beauty words (from their point of view) like "liberation". In fact, we have to save people from such liberations and freedom.
I was wondering when we would hear from our favorite psychotic sociopath. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:47:00 -
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He that would trade his autonomy for peace of mind deserves neither.
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.16 21:42:00 -
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Logical fallacy by weak analogy for both of you.
Yes, yes, I surrender a small amount of autonomy when I work a job. I also can leave the job or get fired. Every person that makes a living in capitalist markets experiences this. That is not the same type of autonomy as say being able to vote for what one believes in, to be able to choose one's leaders or whatever one wishes to do for a living, to believe and say and do and love whatever and whoever one wants without being subject to punishment under some Corporate or State bylaw.
Saying that "everybody surrenders some autonomy for some reward" is like saying "everyone has to have faith." Well, I may have faith in the theory of gravity, but that's substantially different from faith in a God. One chooses to enter a contract. Although there is some sense of obligation, it is still an exercise in autonomy; one may violate the contract or abandon it. This is wholly unlike, for example having nanites and cybernetic implants implanted into one's neocortex that synchronize one's brainwaves and subjugate the will so that one obeys every command of Sansha Kuvakei. |
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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.17 06:41:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:Logical fallacy by weak analogy for both of you. Oho, Sir. If you wish to be formal in your descriptions of logical argument, then I shall most happily provide. The security of rigorous definitions provide clear direction and a level playing field. First, note that I did not posit a position, I asked a question, and illuminated this question with an example. Thus your accusation of fallacy is misplaced, as I had no prepositions from which to draw a conclusion. I was asking for clarification. Secondly, I notice in your reply that you have not answered my question. Instead you have chosen to expand on your definition of "autonomy" and how it is sacrificied, postulating that some sacrifices perserve autonomy while others do not. This is the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi, the irrelevant conclusion. It is true that some bargains made are irreversible, but it does not answer the question. I do apologize, though, I was brief and vague in my asking earlier, no doubt leading you down this path. I will try again. Why do you believe it such that an individual who trades autonomy for peace of mind deserves neither? Why do you feel that the sacrifice of ones' self-direction in order to purchase happiness deserves subjugation and misery?
My darling Scherezad, I believe have answered your question, implicitly. In your most recent assertion, it seems that you assume that by my saying that one does not deserve the comforts one achieves by sacrificing one's autonomy that this is a positive assertion that one deserves discomfort if one does so. This is a fallacy by Denying the Antecedent.
To be clear: Autonomy = A, Peace of Mind = C
I assert: !A then C. You assert: !(!A) therefore !C = A therefore !C. Fallacy. You cannot reach this conclusion via my assertion.
Perhaps I have not completely understood your meaning, however. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me?
If we weren't legally obligated to shoot at each other, I would totally discuss this with you over a candlelight dinner. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.17 07:55:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:
The main differences are that the corridors are cleaner, the crew are never late, drunk or otherwise delinquent in duty, you can walk without a bodyguard without fear of getting kidnapped or mugged, and there's virtually no infighting loyalists inbetween.
I absolutely believe you. I bet that after-work parties have really lively conversation, too. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.17 08:49:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:I absolutely believe you. I bet that after-work parties have really lively conversation, too. If by "lively" you mean pleasant and civil, then yes.
By "lively," I mean engaging and complex, with a variety of viewpoints and approaches to discussion, replete with witty repartee. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.17 15:49:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Natalcya Katla wrote:Possibly, he feels that rearranging the face of your mother is of greater immediate concern. So are you trying to prove my point that he champions causes doomed to failure?
Ha!
Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. Ah, utopia!
Now, back to my candlelight dinner with Scherezad.... |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.17 18:06:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:Perhaps Sansha recruits future Slaves and Citizens with the intent of ensuring that he's always the best looking person in the room. ...says the man who felt the need to dim the lights and turn away from the camera when posing for his Neocomm display picture.
I hate pictures. I look better in person. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.18 06:46:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Gussarde en Welle wrote:I hate pictures. I look better in person. You changed it, I see. That's much better. I have to say, though, that you still fit our recruitment criteria as imagined by yourself. Most people would, however, so don't let that get to you.
Well, I'm certainly not for everyone, but I don't claim to be.
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